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		<title>Per Jessen: Created page with &quot;==First steps 2013==  &lt;h3&gt;Rose hips&lt;/h3&gt;  '''2013/11/26''' There is 9.8kg in the plastic container. I think I will shake them portion-wise in the white colander to filter away...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;==First steps 2013==  &amp;lt;h3&amp;gt;Rose hips&amp;lt;/h3&amp;gt;  &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;2013/11/26&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; There is 9.8kg in the plastic container. I think I will shake them portion-wise in the white colander to filter away...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;==First steps 2013==&lt;br /&gt;
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'''2013/11/26''' There is 9.8kg in the plastic container. I think I will shake them portion-wise in the white colander to filter away the leftovers, petals etc. I'm betting on that it'll come off easier when they're frozen. I'm thinking the hip-wall needs softening, that is what seem to happen in nature when they're left in the colder weather. They soften inside and the skin/wall grows soft too.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''2013/11/27''' I shook the frozen rosehips to try to shake off the dirt, this was somewhat successful. Then I rinsed them with the showerhead. Then I cooked them at low temp for about an hour. &lt;br /&gt;
They went quite soft. I reused the water 3litres twice, then added 2kg of sugar and put it back in the vat. I also took about 200ml and added 5ml of the yeast for a starter.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''2013/11/28''' I added 1L of water and 1kg of sugar, so 4litres and 3kg in total. I also moved to a 30L vat, the 15L vat seemed to have too little room on the top. Total weight = 9.8+4+3 = 17kg.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''2013/11/29''' Have added in the starter, put on the airlock and moved the vat into the boiler-room. This is going to be interesting. 16:50 Saw a bubble from the hips.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''2013/12/01''' there is pressure in the rosehips, but no sustained bubbling.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''2013/12/02''' the rosehips have started to bubble slowly. &lt;br /&gt;
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'''2013/12/08''' rosehips are bubbling steadily, three times faster than pearjuice and -mash.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''2013/12/16''' rosehips are bubbling steadily.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''2013/12/28''' rosehips are bubbling steadily.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''2014/06/01''' rosehips bubbling slowly.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''2014/01/13''' rosehips are bubbling. &lt;br /&gt;
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'''2014/1/14''' rosehips bubbling. &lt;br /&gt;
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'''2014/1/20''' rosehips bubbling.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''2014/02/02''' rosehips bubbling.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''2014/09/13''' the rosehips have stopped bubbling long ago. I am wondering if adding some pektinase now might change anything? Hmm, apparently rose hips do not contain any pektin. Maybe give them a good stir with the drill?&lt;br /&gt;
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'''2016/10/30''' I took a little sampling of the juice to see if it might useful as colouring. I also measured the sugar, 70+ !!!  Have taken a bit of the juice and added .5ml og yeast. &amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''2016/11/06''' Added 6litres of water today, seemed to have produced a bit of pressure, although not enough to cause bubbles. I though the maische might be too acidic for the yeast to work, so I added the water to dilute. I also added water to the yeats starter from above.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''2016/11/07''' added 3 litres of water, produced bubbles when I swirled it strongly.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
'''2016/11/09''' there is pressure on the airlock, and it has bubbled. There is also condensation, which suggests heat production in the mash.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
'''2016/11/11''' definitely bubbles. Observed 4-5 over a couple of minutes.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
'''2016/11/12''' steady bubbles, 9/minute.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
'''2016/11/20''' steady bubbles, less frequent.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
'''2016/11/21''' I noticed many hips rising to the surface, apparently full of air or CO2. I used the drill with the paint stirrer to mash up the hips into a pulp.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
'''2016/11/22''' Gave it another go with the drill and the paint stirrer.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
'''2016/11/27''' still pressure on the airlock, many bubbles after giving it a swirl. Checked the sugar the other day, around 40.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
'''2017/03/18''' Felt like many whole hips had sunk to the bottom. Gave it another go with the drill and the paint stirrer. Still bubbling slowly.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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===Mirabelle===&lt;br /&gt;
2015/09/16 I am retro-adding this as I didn't write up much when I did the first steps. From the fruit picked up over at Lydia's place, I had one batch of mirabelle. After fermenting and distilling once, I added more sugar and water and left it to ferment a second time. See below for details on the distillation.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Elderberry/holunder===&lt;br /&gt;
2015/09/19 I am retro-adding this as I didn't write up much when I did the first steps. The elderberry spent 18 months maturing in a bottle (since Feb 2014). It has come out very nice, nice nose, nice taste.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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